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xx Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Thread started on: Oct 31st, 2012, 6:17pm »

After several years of using Stickies without any problems I encountered a doozy.

When I open up Windows Explorer and highlight one of the sti files Windows Explorer crashes with the message:

"Windows Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."

This happened on both my laptop running Vista and my desktop running XP. The only recent change to both computers was that I dumped Open Office and replaced it with Libre Office.

Sure enough when I uninstalled Libre Office (Ver 3.6.2) from my XP computer Stickies worked fine (I didn't uninstall from the Vista computer but I assume the result would be the same). While trying to figure out what was going on I upgraded to Stickies Version 7.1d from 6.0. The upgrade didn't solve the problem.

Has anyone else experienced this problem or does anyone have any idea what is going on and how to resolve it other than giving up on either Stickies or Libre Office?

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xx Re: Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Reply #1 on: Nov 1st, 2012, 06:41am »

I use 3.6.2 english version of libreoffice and winXP SP3 and have no problems with sti files.

For different reasons i had to mess around with sti association (removed the mark in stickies Options/Advanced setting and created the association using windows standard dialog in explorer).

I did not know that simply highlighting a file would trigger windows to do something..........

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xx Re: Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Reply #2 on: Nov 1st, 2012, 5:23pm »

Thank you for your reply Exiled.

I wasn't as clear as I should have been in describing the problem and symptoms -- so I'll expand on my first attempt.

Sometimes when I just opened up a folder with an STI file showing or when I scrolled through the folder until an STI file appeared Windows Explorer would suddenly crash. Other times I could get into the folder and nothing would happen until I hovered over the STI file. If I got as far as being able to click on the STI file Windows Explorer would ALWAYS crash at that point.

On the Vista computer (before I zeroed in on Libre Office's involvement) I was frustrated in my attempts to get access to a non-STI file that was in a folder that also contained some STI files.

Every time that one of the STI files in that folder appeared on the screen Windows Explorer crashed. I eventually used the "CMD Prompt" command to get a DOS screen. Using DOS I was able to delete the STI files in that folder. Once I did that I didn't have any further problems accessing the non-STI files located in that folder.

I probably should mention that I also installed and uninstalled the LIbre Office "Built In" Help program (English version). I didn't check to see if maybe that (relatively) little program was the culprit.

I'll mention one other thing that probably has nothing to do with anything. When I checked the file associations on my XP computer it showed Stickies 6.0 was associated with the STI file. When I uninstalled Stickies 6.0 and updated to Stickies 7.1d the association still showed Stickies 6.0. This was the case before and after I uninstalled Libre Office.

I know this all sounds crazy and I'm probably not making much sense. Since I had all my files backed up and I now know that I can access the information contained on all of my Sticky files I'm not in any kind of a panic here. Other than the little hassle of retrieving the backups of the files that I deleted and the time spent trying to figure out what was going on this is a pretty harmless problem for me.

But the problem could have been much worse so if possible I'd like to know what happened and how to make sure that it doesn't happen again. I can't imagine that I'm the only one out there who encountered this weird problem.

To get to the bottom of this I'll need some help because I'm definitely ...... NottaProgrammr.
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xx Re: Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Reply #3 on: Nov 2nd, 2012, 08:41am »

Having the problem on two different computers with two different OS eliminates all suggestions i can come up with smiley

The only thing i can see that happens when you open a folder containing sti files is that windows explorer has to load the sti icon (provided by stickies) and read the filename.

Window explorer also takes care of shell extensions and LibreOffice adds itself to sti Open With...But it works fine on my PC (when you select LibreOffice sti opens in the spreadsheet for some reason).


If you update to another stickies version but the path to the exe is the same it seems windows is not updating the "display" name in the registry muicache list..

You can manually delete the entry it will be added next time stickies.exe is used with the correct name.

Or use Nirsofts freeware utility:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/muicache_view.html


If you see microsoft being nice "We are sorry for the inconvenience" hard times are ahead........ smiley

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Update:

I just see there is an update out with bugfixes LibreOffice 3.6.3 .










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xx Re: Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Reply #4 on: Nov 4th, 2012, 1:28pm »

Does LibreOffice also use the .sti file format?

Are the .sti files in that directory causing the problem actually saved from Stickies?

I suspect (without knowing anything about LibreOffice) that it also uses the .sti extension, and has installed a plugin to Explorer so that when you click on one of its .sti files, it opens the file and shows additional information in the status bar. You know, the way that when you click on a JPG you can see the dimensions before you open it.

The Explorer plug-in sees the (Stickies) .sti file, assumes it's one of LibreOffice's, and then crashes as it turns out not to be.

This is all a guess, but it's a guess based on what you've said smiley Does it sound at all likely?

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xx Re: Libre Office & Stickies Aren't Playing Nice
« Reply #5 on: Nov 5th, 2012, 10:08pm »

Tom I think that your guess is a good one.

I uninstalled Libre Office from my Vista computer using the Revo Uninstaller program. When it got to the "clearing out the loose ends in the registry" step I noticed that some of the numerous "darkened" items suggested for deletion included a long (make that REAL long) list of what looked like extensions. One of them was ".sti".

Once I removed LibreOffice from the Vista computer (including deleting the ".sti" item in the registry) Stickies was working again.

As Exiled said ... LibreOffice just came out with an update and to my amazement (and joy) after I installed the the updated version of LibreOffice Stickies still worked. That was the case on both the Vista and XP computers.

There is a separate LibreOffice "Help" program that can be installed after installing LibreOffice and as far as I can tell becomes part of it. I installed the "Help" program on the XP computer without any negative repercussions but I decided to play it safe. I didn't install it on the Vista computer.

I don't know what the "Help" program brings to the party anyway and since I had both Stickies and LibreOffice working on the Vista computer without the "Help" program I decided to quit while I was ahead.

I suppose that I could uninstall LibreOffice again now and see if that ".sti" file shows up for deletion again or if it was removed and that's why the programs are now playing nice with each other. But like I said, I think I'll quit while I'm ahead (maybe I should have used the screen name of chickensh..).

Anyway thank you Tom and Exiled for taking an interest in my problem and for taking the time to give me some direction and encouragement to try to work it out.

And Tom thank you for all the work that you put in to create, write and maintain the Stickie program .... I didn't realize how useful it is until I couldn't use it.
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