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« Reply #60 on: Feb 3rd, 2018, 12:54pm »

@Tom
One more little thing that might help solve the mystery.
It seems that almost every time (say 3 out of 4) I want to add a hyperlink, this happens (I just tested it many times in a sticky that already contains links and that I want to make complete with all remaining necessary links).

I highlight text.
I right-click on it.
'Insert Link' is not in the pop-up menu.
I right-click on the highlighted text again (same location).
'Insert Link' is now present in the pop-up menu.

This is the case most of the time. For my work I have to be very precise so I am always careful when I select something to make sure I am in the correct location.

I have been playing with this for a little bit here now and thought I would post. It is not super important but I find it interesting enough to mention it.
I had another thought, in Windows 10 there is a tendency to 'slide' and 'animate' things. Could this have to do with the above issue and the issue of the jittery cursor?
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« Reply #61 on: Feb 6th, 2018, 2:02pm »

You want to try the download link again - I've just tweaked it a little more.

The problem I have is that the tooltips are not provided by the rich text control, so I have to create and manage them myself. To do that, I need all the relevant info from the control. I need to be told when the user moves the mouse over a link, and when they move it away from the link again.

I get notifications for:


  • The user's mouse is over a tip now
  • The user has moved the mouse over the control
  • The user has move the mouse outside of the control


Now with those message, try to come up with a scheme as to when to show and when to remove a tip. It's not very simple. The other feature I use to show/hide them is a timer. Right now the code runs something like:

User is over a link: show the tip, start counting to two seconds
User leaves the sticky: hide the tip now
Two second timer reached: hide the tip now

It's not perfect, and I agree to get the correct menu items to appear you might have to move the mouse over a link, especially when leaving a previous one, but I'm not sure I can do better with the information available to me sad

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« Reply #62 on: Feb 6th, 2018, 3:09pm »

I tried out the new build. Here's the way it works on my Win7pro. smiley

1. Point at a link continuously: The effect is that the tooltip appears just below and to the right of the link; the tooltip's appearance is continuous as long the mouse points at the link.
2. Point at a link, then move the mouse over the tooltip itself: As soon as the mouse passes over the tooltip, the tooltip vanishes.
3. Point at a link, then move the mouse somewhere else inside the sticky's text box, away from all links and tooltips: The tooltip vanishes after 2 seconds.
4. Point at a link, then quickly move the mouse away from the tooltip and outside the sticky's text box: The tooltip vanishes immediately.
5. Point at a link, then move the mouse to point at a different link (without passing over the first tooltip): The tooltip for the first link keeps showing for the minimum of {2 sec or the time it takes to move to the new link}.

Why not a half second or a one second timer instead? Just a thought.

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« Reply #63 on: Feb 7th, 2018, 09:09am »

Dear Tom.
I tried the new build on my Windows 10 machine.
With me it's very stable now, except for the little weirdness I had and I think it might have to do with where I click: I have to click a bit near the bottom of text, almost underneath it. This was never the case before but I can get used to that.

No issues whatsoever with the link tooltips, the tip changes immediately when I hover over a different link to reflect that link. So for me it was already good.

The tip is below the link which results in obscuring the text below it but since I carefully prune my links sticky this is not an issue to me, I can still see where I want to go and should be smiley

The one oddity that seems stable is the jittery cursor as I described in one of the first posts, or maybe even the very first. This is different on Windows 7.
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« Reply #64 on: Feb 7th, 2018, 2:18pm »

The delay before the tip is removed is something which is wholly within my control, so that could be half a second easily enough. Perhaps that makes more sense, so that the tip remains in place when the mouse is over it, and then disappears once it's left it...

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« Reply #65 on: Feb 7th, 2018, 6:20pm »

If the mouse is moved down and to the right of a link, then the tip vanishes immediately because the mouse pointer quickly strikes the tooltip. If the mouse pointer is moved upward in the text box from a link, it's possible to begin typing before the tooltip fades away; in this case, two seconds feels like an eternity. Go away, go away, little tip. smiley Long ago I recall tooltips for buttons persisting after moving away from the buttons. The behavior seen with the links is similar.

The tip serves no purpose once we've moved on, right? May I suggest setting the timer to some fraction of a second, even smaller than 1/2 second?

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« Reply #66 on: Feb 9th, 2018, 09:13am »

I have no issues with the tooltip whatsoever. Not when moving in any direction. I suppose this might have to do with other settings on someone's machine. I will compare the tooltips with the ones on Windows 7 too, next week.

I tested something again though..
The only thing left is the strange thing when I highlight text that does not contain a link while the text above/under it does contain a link. The pop-up only shows 'Copy Link Address' as if it thinks the link below is highlighted.
So I just decided to use the 'Copy Link Address' to see which link would be copied.
It copied the link below it...
So it's really as if something is out of whack. This would be consistent with the fact that I mentioned I have to carefully click nowadays to get the proper pop-up menu.

It's strange though! huh
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